The collapse of the Soviet system happened because it was a failed system. It wasn’t because they spent more money on weaponry. It was because it was a failed system. But I think we have a failed system now that’s affecting our culture.
That’s why you have the cultural Marxists in our universities preaching. They want to disrupt our culture so that they could mould it back together in a different type of centralized control. It is cultural more than economic Marxism. So, it’s a contest that is going on, but certainly the introduction to the neo-conservatives has been a big deal.
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Hanne Nabintu Herland, historian of comparative religions, bestselling author, TV producer and founder of The Scandinavian Herland Report: – We admire you so much and find your approach to be so refreshing in today’s warmongering climate, thank you for taking the time to meet with us here in America.
I live in the Middle East, and so many people in the Middle East seem so voiceless today because the media is owned by the large corporations. We hear only the perspectives of the ultra-rich, so to speak. And you are a loved man all over the world for doing the great work that you’ve done, both here at the Liberty Report and your focus on the respect for national sovereignty and liberty, and the respect for all nations and peoples in this divisive moment in the United States as well.
My first question to you takes us back to the US four-star general Wesley Clark. He has stated that much of the disarray we see today started happening around 1993, or even before, when the neo-con movement in the United States gained power with Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney and the early days of the neo-cons. Clark speaks about coup in foreign policy that took place at that time and made America go from being a nation defending its values to be an aggressive national force. What’s your analysis on this?
Dr. Ron Paul: -There’s been a quite a few dates that people use to describe what’s happening today, whether it’s the 80s or 90s or what. Each date contributes a good deal. But there is a lot of us that are in the libertarian movement who sees that our problem started even before that. We think about the progressive era. We think about the early part of the century, the Woodrow Wilson era. He wanted to make the world a safe democracy and if you didn’t want to do that you weren’t a good American. We got involved in a war we shouldn’t have gotten involved in.
Also, at that time we, as a country, introduced the notion that a big government could be financed in an easy way, just print money so we introduce this notion of central banking. Our federal reserve system, which other countries have copied us on which we think is very damaging.
In 1913, we introduced the notion that all income belongs to the government and they would allow us to keep a certain percentage. This was the income tax. This guaranteed that the American system emphasising individual liberty would be undermined and has systematically undermined.
Dr. Paul: – Culturally, there are still a large number of Americans that might represent a view that I endorsed, but we’ve been sort of silenced. We are not on TV, we are excluded from universities and even now we have Google and Facebook sort of monitoring us so that we can’t put our messages out as easily as others.
So, I think there’s two worlds going on but there is a big contest going on. Because this system where this culture has deteriorated so has the economy in spite of all the positive things, the economy is built on debt and malinvestments (money being spent in the wrong way) and it’s coming to an end. That’s why we are optimistic from our point of view of pushing and understanding liberty, because the current system doesn’t work.
We see it somewhat in comparison to what happened in 1989. You know, with the collapse of the Soviet system because it was a failed system. It wasn’t because they spent more money on weaponry. It was because it was a failed system. But I think we have a failed system now that’s affecting our culture.
That’s why you have the cultural Marxists in our universities preaching. They want to disrupt our culture so that they could mould it back together in a different type of centralized control. Its cultural more than economic Marxism. So, it’s a contest that is going on, but certainly the introduction to the neo-conservatives has been a big deal.
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Therefore, I started getting involved with politics and took these positions where our traditions were meant to be non-interventionalists. We were supposed to stay out of this. There were a lot of people who listened and paid attention, but of course there were also a lot of people in strong opposition to what I was saying. But we are still trying to reach out so we are delighted to be on a program like yours, because we find out that even though we think our numbers are small, you have found out that there are some people around the world in other countries and we always love to hear from them.
Hanne Nabintu Herland, founder of The Scandinavian Herland Report: – We all used to feel sorry for the people that lived in the Soviet Union. We said that these were poor people living under such propaganda. Now we see the exact same thing happening in the West and what we label as a totalitarian system really. It’s an oppression of free speech. Yet the West used to be such a beacon for free speech.
Dr. Ron Paul: – I was thinking about this the other day because there is a lot of addiction in this country. Opioids and alcohol, and this used to be a characteristic of the Soviets. They would show pictures of how the Soviets felt destitute and drank more etc. We can be charged with this now because we have gone in this direction.
The other thing that happened was that the more authoritarian the society is, the less creativity there is. There is less intercourse between people, you know, talking and sharing ideas and developments. Of course, the Soviet system didn’t develop anything, so this is happening to us right now. The only thing that we export now are dollars and we get a good deal because we have managed, through our military and economic power, to maintain a dollar system. Therefore, we have a tremendous advantage over that, but it’s a system that is deteriorating and it must be reversed.
My message is that there still are a decent size group of people in this country who knows what’s right and wants to go in that direction. I am also optimistic because numbers aren’t the whole thing. You need a certain amount of people, you can have maybe 8-10% of the people if they know the right thing and do it and are in a place of influence and can reach out.
There is a lot of influence and ideas are very powerful. That’s why I resent the people who spread American exceptionalism with guns and sanctions and all this. I think we should be spreading a good message and providing the information with these ideas. When you have that, the army can’t stop us. They cannot be stopped because ideas can be spread despite of armies and authoritarianism.
It is a rough walk a lot of times because governments don’t want to give up an inch of their power. This is the struggle going on now.
The people who are on the defensive now are the people who believe in this superpower state. Even the neo-conservatives are on the defensive because everything they do fails. Look at the Middle East. I mean all our policies are failing. We help our enemies as much as we are supposed to help our allies.
When you think about how Iran has come out of this mess of all these wars we have created. So, our system is failing in a very narrow sense and of course some people would say that I am unpatriotic about it, but its good that bad ideas are failing. I want the fiat currency to fail. I want people to have honest money. I want liberty to prevail.
We do not need better authoritarians and better economic planning. We need people to plan their own lives in a personal way. We need the people to spend their own money and we need to accept the idea that all foreign governments can deal with their own problems and that we don’t get involved.
That doesn’t mean we endorse their government but that we don’t have the moral authority to bring in armies to march in and start controlling their elections, which we too often do. We control their elections and interfere like we are going to spread our goodness. That is a good way for fear and more chaos.
Hanne Nabintu Herland: – It’s been interesting for us speaking to many Americans, regular folks, when we’ve come here. So far, all the people I have spoken to would agree with you on all that you say. This point to something very serious in the West because over 90 % of the American media is owned by 6 corporations. Half of those corporations also owns the weapon industry here. So, who cares about the people? Who knows what they think?
Even here in the United States because they sure don’t have a voice. So that’s also, I believe, one of the reasons of the frustration, of the neo-conservatives and much of what’s happening now. It doesn’t matter how much the CNN rants about Trump doing this or that because there are more issues that are oppressing in the world than whether Trump did his shoes properly or not.
Dr. Ron Paul: – And there is little empathy from those who are in charge because I’ve dealt with them. I have been in congress a long time and when I bring up this subject of removing people’s liberty by doing what they do, they respond to me that “the people don’t know how to take care of themselves”. They believe that. They are ordained to take care of people.
I can recall asking two different chairmen of the Federal Reserve board of what they are doing with these low interest rates. They are punishing the people who wants to save money and take care of themselves. They say that they acknowledge this but that this is one of the prices that they need to pay.
And just like the Madeleine Albright famous quote about the Middle East, when we were asked about the 500 000 Iraqi children who died by our bombs, she said that this was a price we had to pay for us doing our good deeds. So, they don’t have empathy for the people.
I think the only system of government that can show real empathy is a government and a people who can recognize what personal liberty is all about. To allow people to have their liberties and to allow them to make their own mistakes and face the responsibility and to reap the awards of the work they do. That system has been proven to be the best system ever. Yet, it is under systematically attack right now.
Hanne Nabintu Herland, founder of The Herland Report: – Thank you very much, Dr. Ron Paul for accommodating us here in the great state of Texas and taking your time to meet with the Herland Report from Scandinavia. We would like to endorse you to all our viewers. We know that so many watches you from all over the world. Thank you very much, sir.
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The Herland Report is founded and hosted by Hanne Nabintu Herland, a Scandinavian historian of comparative religions, bestselling author, commentator and TV producer, known from the media for sharp analysis and fearless speech. Herland has for many years written extensively in leading newspapers on a variety of issues and appeared as a guest on a variety of TV shows. She was born and raised in Africa, has lived in South America and currently in the Middle East, and travelled extensively in Asia. She speaks a number of languages.
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